Comments on: Transition, Transformation and Vision for the Diaspora http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/ Working for your right to Information Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:57:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John Jones http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-4/#comment-7741 John Jones Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:57:32 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-7741 Hello, It is likely this posting could be off topic but anyways, Having gone surfing about your blog and it seems extremely great. It's obvious that you know the subject and you appear passionate about it. We are developing a new site and I am striving to make it look good, and also offer top quality writing. Having learned a good deal visiting your internet site and also I anticipate further articles and will be coming back soon. Many thanks. Hello, It is likely this posting could be off topic but anyways, Having gone surfing about your blog and it seems extremely great. It’s obvious that you know the subject and you appear passionate about it. We are developing a new site and I am striving to make it look good, and also offer top quality writing. Having learned a good deal visiting your internet site and also I anticipate further articles and will be coming back soon. Many thanks.

]]> By: Bhutan » Transition, Transformation and Vision for the Diaspora | APFA NEWS http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-3/#comment-2838 Bhutan » Transition, Transformation and Vision for the Diaspora | APFA NEWS Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:01:52 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2838 [...] Transition, Transformation and Vision for the Diaspora | APFA NEWSA highly placed source at United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has said that altogether 16000 Bhutanese citizens have been resettled in. … In America, life revolves round the clock and the hours you make working, but we come from a culture that values social norm, traditions and rituals more than work. Our festivals come every month and we celebrate some of them for weeks. We know manual work not mechanization. We know the plough and the field, … [...] [...] Transition, Transformation and Vision for the Diaspora | APFA NEWSA highly placed source at United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has said that altogether 16000 Bhutanese citizens have been resettled in. … In America, life revolves round the clock and the hours you make working, but we come from a culture that values social norm, traditions and rituals more than work. Our festivals come every month and we celebrate some of them for weeks. We know manual work not mechanization. We know the plough and the field, … [...]

]]> By: Devendra http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-3/#comment-2819 Devendra Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:31:00 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2819 RP daju realy worthy to read and milestone . RP daju realy worthy to read and milestone
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]]> By: Monica http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-3/#comment-2801 Monica Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:28:58 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2801 My answer may not have importance in your organizational process, but in some way I feel a small part of it. I´m a European lady, who got to know about your situation in 2005, while a short staying in Nepal. Since then, a strong indignation feeling has been growing inside me. I believe in human rights, in justice and in peaceful processes to transform societies. When I read opinions like the one I read today from RP Subba I even trust in democracy. We all should make use of all the mechanisms that democracy offers us for changing our world. I feel the Bhutanese process as a part of my personal process. I feel myself a “woman from the world”, not from any particular country. We mustn’t renounce to our particularities as a society. We must integrate ourselves in the societies we live in but not being assimilated by them. We must follow the rule “to add and not to subtract”. Let’s learn the options that a democratic society like US can offer us. Let’s learn their channels and be introduced in them. Let’s promote education; the right of free thinking and free expression. Let’s use the right for association. You all, Bhutanese community (in exile, in Nepal and in Bhutan) is the main character of this story. But you may don´t forget that you are not alone. There is a global citizenry which will support your peaceful fight. Congratulations for this initiative to put in contact Bhutanese in the Diaspora and to create the forum to debate about your future. I will follow your story and in some ways I will participate in it. My answer may not have importance in your organizational process, but in some way I feel a small part of it. I´m a European lady, who got to know about your situation in 2005, while a short staying in Nepal. Since then, a strong indignation feeling has been growing inside me. I believe in human rights, in justice and in peaceful processes to transform societies. When I read opinions like the one I read today from RP Subba I even trust in democracy. We all should make use of all the mechanisms that democracy offers us for changing our world. I feel the Bhutanese process as a part of my personal process. I feel myself a “woman from the world”, not from any particular country. We mustn’t renounce to our particularities as a society. We must integrate ourselves in the societies we live in but not being assimilated by them. We must follow the rule “to add and not to subtract”. Let’s learn the options that a democratic society like US can offer us. Let’s learn their channels and be introduced in them. Let’s promote education; the right of free thinking and free expression. Let’s use the right for association. You all, Bhutanese community (in exile, in Nepal and in Bhutan) is the main character of this story. But you may don´t forget that you are not alone. There is a global citizenry which will support your peaceful fight.

Congratulations for this initiative to put in contact Bhutanese in the Diaspora and to create the forum to debate about your future. I will follow your story and in some ways I will participate in it.

]]> By: jetho http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-3/#comment-2783 jetho Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:37:28 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2783 Theory without praticality. We heard many tales and promises in the name of political motivations to fulfill the dire interest. Mr. Subba camoulflaging his image from time and again appeared in the screen. A man without stand by himself and support from the countrymen. When there is an influx of refugees, he again wanted to show his presence, that is all. Taking the advantage of the innocency is the central vision of Mr Subba. How can Subba say that his goal post has not shifted? What has shifted, balls, players or corner flag? Read or write, that is your way of living, you know it. Do you need to write in the media? People are very sensitive and they don't need the visionary illusion but a straight forward answers yes or no type. Theory without praticality. We heard many tales and promises in the name of political motivations to fulfill the dire interest. Mr. Subba camoulflaging his image from time and again appeared in the screen. A man without stand by himself and support from the countrymen. When there is an influx of refugees, he again wanted to show his presence, that is all. Taking the advantage of the innocency is the central vision of Mr Subba.
How can Subba say that his goal post has not shifted? What has shifted, balls, players or corner flag?
Read or write, that is your way of living, you know it. Do you need to write in the media?
People are very sensitive and they don’t need the visionary illusion but a straight forward answers yes or no type.

]]> By: Rp Subba http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-3/#comment-2771 Rp Subba Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:02:41 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2771 Note: Gopal Bhai's comment and Naradji's comment were received in my inbox. With due apologies to Gopal and Naradji, I copy pasted those comments here, so that every one here can see and read what each of us are thinking. If you consider it a mistake on my part, it is an inadvertant one. There was no bad intent when I did it. Still, I am sorry. I am very proud of the comments that are coming, and which are the gems of inspiration to me. I want to thank both of you and other well wishers who have taken time to read the paper and write your sincere comments. Thank you all. Note: Gopal Bhai’s comment and Naradji’s comment were received in my inbox. With due apologies to Gopal and Naradji, I copy pasted those comments here, so that every one here can see and read what each of us are thinking. If you consider it a mistake on my part, it is an inadvertant one. There was no bad intent when I did it. Still, I am sorry.

I am very proud of the comments that are coming, and which are the gems of inspiration to me. I want to thank both of you and other well wishers who have taken time to read the paper and write your sincere comments. Thank you all.

]]> By: Narad Adhikari http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-2/#comment-2770 Narad Adhikari Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:50:50 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2770 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:33 AM, GHRD Bhutan wrote: Dear R P Subba ji, Namaskar! How are you? Hope you are keeping fine as we do here in Nepal. I was in fact looking for your contact email address since long to write. This morning when I visited the internet, I saw your article "Transition,..........." publised by apfanews.com where your email address was also given. So, I am writing this mail. I read your document. The theme was really good and interesting. If things could progress in the line as you said, we could certainly achieve our goals one day. The central message I noted in your artilce, which I liked very much, is that "All people will not leave the camps and all people who left the camps will not leave the movement." So, let this become the guiding principle for shaping and heading our movement in the comming days. Idea of Purna Chetri to get it translated into Nepali was good. It is true that such concept should florish among the people so that more people, who could read English, could read and understand about you, and of course decide about their future corectly. So, lets remain in touch. I have not yet decided to leave the camp. At least for some times, I want to continue with the movement from here itself. The opinion among the regional leadership is also growing now towards generating more international pressure on Bhutan so that at least people who are inside the country will not face insurity about their citizenship and Bhutan Bhutan will ultimately compel to take back some people from the camps. My view is that it will be our great achievement even if Bhutan takes back a small number of people from exile. To make it happen, we should continue putting pressure through our movement. With this, looking forward to hearing from you. with best regards, Narad adhikari, On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:33 AM, GHRD Bhutan wrote:

Dear R P Subba ji,

Namaskar! How are you? Hope you are keeping fine as we do here in
Nepal. I was in fact looking for your contact email address since long
to write. This morning when I visited the internet, I saw your article
“Transition,………..” publised by apfanews.com where your email
address was also given. So, I am writing this mail.

I read your document. The theme was really good and interesting. If
things could progress in the line as you said, we could certainly
achieve our goals one day. The central message I noted in your
artilce, which I liked very much, is that “All people will not leave
the camps and all people who left the camps will not leave the
movement.” So, let this become the guiding principle for shaping and
heading our movement in the comming days. Idea of Purna Chetri to get
it translated into Nepali was good. It is true that such concept
should florish among the people so that more people, who could read
English, could read and understand about you, and of course decide
about their future corectly.

So, lets remain in touch. I have not yet decided to leave the camp.
At least for some times, I want to continue with the movement from
here itself. The opinion among the regional leadership is also growing
now towards generating more international pressure on Bhutan so that
at least people who are inside the country will not face insurity
about their citizenship and Bhutan Bhutan will ultimately compel to
take back some people from the camps.

My view is that it will be our great achievement even if Bhutan takes
back a small number of people from exile. To make it happen, we should
continue putting pressure through our movement.

With this, looking forward to hearing from you.

with best regards,

Narad adhikari,

]]> By: Kazi Gautam http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-2/#comment-2765 Kazi Gautam Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:21:47 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2765 Dear RP dai, Honestly, you have presented something great that I (and perhaps everyone)had been waiting for. Your write up deserves appreciation; as it provides a lot of information and suggestions as well, I believe. There are different unheard and unspoken problems and grievances of the resettled Bhutanese communities. Its been over one year that I have been resetled here, and duties in my job involve a lot of interactions with the Americans, in person and over phone. Every time I speak with them, I have some hesitation. My point is, we have just started the journey and there is a long way to travel.Initially, we have to struggle with hurdles, as you say, but we got to overcome them over time. We must learn to be honest with ourselves. Yes, indeed, we need to preserve our culture. I wish I could translate your article in Nepali for the common folks. Please keep writing for our site. Kazi gautam Dear RP dai,

Honestly, you have presented something great that I (and perhaps everyone)had been waiting for. Your write up deserves appreciation; as it provides a lot of information and suggestions as well, I believe. There are different unheard and unspoken problems and grievances of the resettled Bhutanese communities. Its been over one year that I have been resetled here, and duties in my job involve a lot of interactions with the Americans, in person and over phone. Every time I speak with them, I have some hesitation. My point is, we have just started the journey and there is a long way to travel.Initially, we have to struggle with hurdles, as you say, but we got to overcome them over time. We must learn to be honest with ourselves.

Yes, indeed, we need to preserve our culture.

I wish I could translate your article in Nepali for the common folks.

Please keep writing for our site.

Kazi gautam

]]> By: Gopal Subedi http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-2/#comment-2761 Gopal Subedi Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:37:35 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2761 The above comment was sent as an email message to the writer (RP sir). If I understand it right, the message has been copy pasted here from RP sir's email inbox. I would have added/subtracted some content in the message had I known that earlier. Thank you anyways. Sincerely, Gopal The above comment was sent as an email message to the writer (RP sir). If I understand it right, the message has been copy pasted here from RP sir’s email inbox. I would have added/subtracted some content in the message had I known that earlier. Thank you anyways.

Sincerely,
Gopal

]]> By: Gopal Subedi http://www.apfanews.com/commentary/transition-transformation-and-vision-for-the-diaspora/comment-page-2/#comment-2750 Gopal Subedi Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:31:31 +0000 http://www.apfanews.com/?p=2580#comment-2750 Dear RP sir, Please accept my deepest appreciation for a wonderful write-up in the apfanews.com. The write-up is an awakening tool for all the resettled Bhutanese across the globe. It very truly covers the different areas our people should know to get along with the life in a country like the United States. I came to the States on a F1 student visa in 2006. I am a rising senior at Colby college in Maine. This summer, I am doing research in nuclear physics at Texas A&M university. From my personal experiences, I would like to share a few things that might be helpful in coming up with a write-up focusing on our younger generation. From what I have experienced and seen, I think the most vulnerable group in our society is the younger lot. Coming from refugee camps, it takes courage, motivation and right direction to get along with the American college culture (this applies to High school too) while still retaining our own identity and culture. Things that we thought friendly back in the camps is no longer a friendly jesture in the United States. Say for example, boys touching each other, hugging, etc is something not easily accepted in the american college culture. Other things like proper choice of the color of clothes for guys, proper etiquette at a party...so on and so forth. I have been a big fan of your articles, thought this would be a good topic to come up with a good write-up and educate our resettled folks. Once again, thank you for a great article. Sincerely, Gopal Subedi Dear RP sir,

Please accept my deepest appreciation for a wonderful write-up in the apfanews.com. The write-up is an awakening tool for all the resettled Bhutanese across the globe. It very truly covers the different areas our people should know to get along with the life in a country like the United States.

I came to the States on a F1 student visa in 2006. I am a rising senior at Colby college in Maine. This summer, I am doing research in nuclear physics at Texas A&M university.

From my personal experiences, I would like to share a few things that might be helpful in coming up with a write-up focusing on our younger generation. From what I have experienced and seen, I think the most vulnerable group in our society is the younger lot. Coming from refugee camps, it takes courage, motivation and right direction to get along with the American college culture (this applies to High school too) while still retaining our own identity and culture. Things that we thought friendly back in the camps is no longer a friendly jesture in the United States. Say for example, boys touching each other, hugging, etc is something not easily accepted in the american college culture. Other things like proper choice of the color of clothes for guys, proper etiquette at a party…so on and so forth.

I have been a big fan of your articles, thought this would be a good topic to come up with a good write-up and educate our resettled folks.

Once again, thank you for a great article.

Sincerely,
Gopal Subedi

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